Chrysler will file for bankruptcy

[Kutulhu]

Unions, Zappa had it right.

This is a song about the union, friends
How they fucked you over and the way they bends
The rules to suit a special few
And you gets pooched every time the do
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
Once upon a time the idea was good
If only they'd a done what they said they would
It ain't no better, they's makin' it worse
The labor movement's got the Mafia curse
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
Don't be no fool, don't be no dope
Common sense is your only hope
When the union tells you it's time to strike
Tell the motherfucker to take a hike
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together
You know we gotta stick together

[Bukowski]

Originally Posted by poptop

A bunch of bullshit because I've never actually had a job that didn't require a paper hat and a name tag

Gotta love it. This douchebag read about unions so he knows the scoop. I've actually had to deal with unions and have seen what unions and their idiotic rules can do to a company. One more reason why liberal's should never be in charge of anything, anytime or anywhere.

[swatchhustler]

The capitalists want the days of Industrial Revolution to be the rule, not the exception. Management and business leaders earn huge money for doing essentially nothing. Workers are paid a pittance, forced to work 24/7 in squalid conditions with zero safety measures and regardless of their health conditions, and fired at the slightest sign of disagreement or performance liability.

The unionists want guaranteed lifelong work, to be paid lots of money for little to no work, and full benefits paid for directly by the company.

Without unions there will be no middle class. You'll be either born a rich and spoiled brat or a penniless fool with no rights whatsoever. However, with unions, you essentially replace a greater evil with a lesser evil - you're nowhere as better off as before. Thus the balance is for the companies to treat their workers fairly and being humans, not a bunch of 16-year-old wiggers going to work so they have money to get drunk and wasted in the after hours.

[lordreason]

Originally Posted by nr5667

I think the system we have in the U.S breeds mutual hostility between the employer and the unions.

Germany, where the unions actually have seats on the board of directors leads to greater understanding of the needs of the business and the needs of the workers, and the necessary compromises.

That's likely going to be the way things happen with whatever company rises from the bankruptcy of Chrysler, with the Union have a 55% stake in the company.

[nietzsche]

GM will follow shortly... the kicker is that filing for bankruptcy allows them to absolve themselves of responsibility for a lot of worker's pensions, health care and retirement.

[tunasushi]

Originally Posted by Bukowski

I've actually had to deal with unions and have seen what unions and their idiotic rules can do to a company. One more reason why liberal's should never be in charge of anything, anytime or anywhere.

Unions have rules for a reason. You talk like squalor in the workplace is fictional.